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an explosion. the u.s. chamber of commerce distributed nationwide to businesses. the chamber of commerce expanded its budget. business round table. now everybody takes it for granted today. it was formed three months after louis powell's memo. businesses expanded their offices lobbying here. then the business power came up when jimmy carter and the democrats were in charge in 19778. turned the whole thing -- 1978. turned the whole thing around. that was the beginning of the story. that was the business rebellion that began to steal the american dream from the middle class. >> oh, gosh. i want to ask you, you know, in a presidential election, an opinion? >> i'm not going to do that. this is not about the election. this is -- we're not going to get to a smart fix in this country unless we understand how we got in the trouble we're in. neither of these guys at the moment are telling you. we're not getting down to the bottom of this thing. this is about people out around the country, in ohio n california, in washington state. it's about how the 401(k) program isn't working. it's about how pe
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